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Yellowstone fans debate when the show hit its nadir.

Yellowstone has plenty of crazy moments, but they were largely part of Taylor Sheridan's wildly successful formula for creating endlessly watchable television series. However, even the modern savior of Westerns couldn't maintain the quality without making a few missteps, and fans now debate which moment in Yellowstone's history marked the series' climax.

It's no secret that Yellowstone lost its way at some point, but there's some disagreement about exactly when. On Reddit, viewers have carefully analyzed some of the series' weakest moments, trying to determine where Yellowstone's ultimate downfall actually lies.

User tidepod007 started the discussion by pointing out John Dutton (Kevin Costner)'s behavior after the election, when he became governor, as well as the behavior of his children, Beth Dutton (Kelly Reilly) and Jamie Dutton (Wes Bentley). "He became governor of the state, and now Beth and John can't even hide how evil they are," he wrote, accusing the writers of "horribly bad writing." (Tidepod, apparently, hasn't watched Marshals yet.) Another user agreed: "John runs for governor, gets elected, hates it, and then blames Jamie for it because he 's supposed to be'. Come on, John, make up your mind already." But the debate doesn't end there, as some viewers apparently believe Yellowstone's golden age only lasted a couple of seasons—if at all.

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Fans didn't like the 5th season of the TV series "Yellowstone".

Taylor Sheridan's Travis Whitley looks up while sitting at a table, holding a phone, in "Yellowstone" - Paramount Network.

For many, Taylor Sheridan's Travis Whitley ruined Yellowstone's fifth season, and his name undoubtedly came up in the Reddit debate. One user pointed to the strip poker game between Travis and Beth Dutton, which was part of the episode, essentially an excuse for Sheridan to make the female characters admire his horse trainer's macho appeal. "The lowest point of the season for me was the strip poker game," wrote one user. "Total cringe. Taylor Sheridan's push into the final season with a more prominent role wasn't a fitting end to the series, but it was consistent with his track record." Another Reddit user called it "the most insane self-insert in media history.".

Travis and his seemingly insurmountable horseback riding skills aside, Yellowstone's fifth season appears to have been its least popular. "Season 5 was like the creators had no idea what they were doing," wrote one Reddit user. "[…] Seasons 4 and especially 5 killed this show. Total garbage ending." Others were even less forgiving. One fan loved "seasons 1-2, but the show's quality dropped after that," while another was more forgiving: "I enjoyed the first three seasons. But the writing fell so badly that I stopped watching." Yet another went even further: "Seasons 1-4 were very enjoyable. Cowboying, ranching, and cowboy turf wars. Season 5... really let it go." Overall, it seems season 5 was the point where most fans gave up hope.

But what moment, exactly, was the final straw? One user claims it was after the controversial death of John Dutton and "Casey [Dutton]'s involvement in the subsequent investigation. A family member should never have been anywhere near that.".

There were plenty of moments in the early seasons of Yellowstone where the plot crossed all boundaries.

In the film Yellowstone (Paramount Network), Kevin Costner's John Dutton sits by the wheel of his car, looking worried.

While Yellowstone's fifth season has received the most criticism, many viewers seem to believe the show "crossed the line" much earlier. One Reddit user points to the murder plot in season three, in which Jamie Dutton's biological father, Garrett Randall (Will Patton), attempted to wipe out the entire Dutton clan but was soundly defeated. "I felt like the show's breaking point was the buildup of tension and the culmination of a coordinated plot to kill everyone in the family," the user wrote. "And everyone survived.".

Interestingly, the infamous bomb-on-a-plane plot hole—when Casey Dutton, played by Luke Grimes, planted a bomb on the Beck brothers' plane but never used it—isn't mentioned as often as you might think. The first episode of "Marshals" reminded us of Yellowstone's biggest plot hole, but fans on this particular subreddit apparently didn't consider it a point of no return. Still, as one user wrote, "I still wonder what happened to the plane with the bomb, like so many others," and if you look elsewhere—say, in a separate thread dedicated to answering the question of when Yellowstone crossed the line—the first comment is, "Bomb on a plane.".

The same thread also discusses the earliest possible moment when Yellowstone went astray, with one user suggesting that Lee Dutton's death was the turning point. Considering it occurs in the pilot, that's a rather harsh assessment—though, as the user notes, "We've heard almost nothing about the eldest son for 5 seasons. It's as if he never existed.".

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