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If there's a key to unlocking the unpredictable and unexpected charm of Widow's Bay, it's this 2016 photo. You know, Which The photo in question: writer (and future series creator) Katie Dippold, sitting at a Halloween party in full Babadook costume, looking at the camera with a wry smile that seems hilariously out of place. Her caption is even better: "Flashback to Halloween when I dressed as the Babadook, but my friend's house was more suited to adults drinking wine.".
Over the past few weeks, the Apple TV series, a creepy story about an abandoned island, incredible Funny, with a rich story, a terrifying cast, terrifying monsters, plenty of visual jokes, and a unique charm, it's hit the streaming platform, and audiences are warming up to it. And when they find out what's behind it Dippold , that same "Babadook" Halloween heroine?
«It makes me so happy,» Dippold said with a laugh, when asked by IndieWire why the photo continues to resonate so strongly. «I’ve seen a lot of comments like, „ О , “That makes sense,„ and I think, “Oh, good,» because I feel like this photograph is a real glimpse into my soul, and this show is all of my feelings, passions, and dreams in one project. It makes sense to me.”.
At this season's IndieWire Honors, series creator, executive producer, showrunner, and writer Dippold shared our Visionary Award with director and executive producer Hiro Murai, who together embody the comedic genius and unique charm of Widow's Bay. Both are seasoned comedy writers and creators—Dippold got his start on MADtv and Parks and Recreation before turning to film with films like Heat and 2016's Ghostbusters, and Murai is best known for his work on Atlanta, Legion, and Barry—and their seemingly disparate perspectives blend beautifully into this show's unique blend of scary, funny, and terrifyingly funny.
The audience reaction alone has left a strong impression on Dippold and Murai: they are enjoying rave reviews from both critics and viewers as the series concludes its first (and hopefully many!) season on the streaming platform.
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«It feels different,” Dippold said. “I’ve had my ups and downs in this business. Someone once told me something that has always stuck with me: success is something that happens.” between failures. I always enjoyed that. I definitely received messages from more people than I ever had in my entire life, a thousand times more.".
Murai added: "You never know if something you create will be liked, especially if you're trying to do something a little out of the box.".
The success of Widow's Bay was the result long years preparation. It began not only with the sale of the series to Apple in 2024, or with Dippold first conceived of the story as a script for Parks and Recreation nearly 20 years ago, but also with Dippold's childhood in New Jersey.
«"It's been a very, very long road," she said. "In itself It all started back in my childhood. I really loved writing. Of course, not very Fine , "I was constantly writing newspaper articles about my sister, denigrating her. But every summer we would go to the Long Branch [New Jersey] waterfront, and there was a haunted house there that was very questionable.".
Dippold made it clear: it was Very Doubtful. "It was the '80s, they were chasing you, they could get you," she said. "Halloween and horror events were really big in my family, and I loved it so much that walking through that haunted house, I was absolutely thrilled. I didn't know if I was going to laugh or scream. It's a feeling I've been trying to capture my whole life, and I've always wanted to see it on screen.".
This was one of the first feelings Dippold told Murai about. . «I think the first thing she told me [about the tone she wanted for the show] was this memory of visiting a haunted house on a pier in New Jersey and feeling a sense of unease and anticipation, but at the same time cheerful , "It was mind-blowing," he said. "I thought it was a really interesting topic to explore, and I hadn't seen anything like it, especially on television.".
In his original pitch, Dippold envisioned «Widow’s Bay» as a pilot script for «Parks and Recreation,» something «more comedic» that could fit seamlessly into the hit NBC series. «But I knew I wouldn’t watch that version of the show because I really want to be scared,» Dippold said. «I want to feel like it’s a real place. I want to be immersed in it. I’m a comedy writer, but I love horror movies first and foremost, and that was the hardest part. The humor in a show can come from the characters as well as the truthful portrayal of the situation, and it’s very easy to go off the rails. You have to really think about, how would someone react to this? It took years of trial and error to really figure out how.” this a person could react realistically, but at the same time cheerfully and humanly.".
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Dippold said she'd been "putting off" trying to do anything with the old "Parks and Recreation" script for years, but couldn't stop thinking about it. "It was something I was always working on," she said. "Sometimes, and this sounds ridiculous, I'd go to the American Museum of Natural History in New York City, walk around the museum, look at the display cases, and imagine what those display cases would look like in Wideaws Bay. It, oddly enough, opened up new possibilities for me.".
Atlanta is also helpful. Donald Glover's FX series, produced and directed by Murai, remains one of Dippold's favorites. When she was still working on what would become Widows Bay, that series—and Murai's work on it—helped Dippold imagine what her own could be.
«"We're not from the same comedy community. I grew up in the world of Mike Schur and Greg Daniels, who makes 'Atlanta' and all that," Dippold said. "Watching 'Atlanta' was really helpful because television has changed so much, and they were doing such cool things. Like doing one episode like 'Alligator Man,' one of my favorite episodes of television, and then something like 'The Forest.' They were going in different directions, and I really wanted to do something like that for this one because I wanted those tonal shifts to feel intentional. I wanted it to be unexpected, like a roller coaster.".
As Widow's Bay began to take shape, Dippold began searching for a director. Her choice was obvious. (Murai went on to direct five of the series' ten episodes, including the pilot and finale.) Like Atlanta, the first season features a diverse array of episodes that flow beautifully together, from a flashback sequence featuring Betty Gilpin and Hamish Linklater to a gripping drug trip directed by Friendship director Andrew DeYoung.
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«"Hiro was the perfect director for me," Dippold said. "I think he's brilliant, and he's very unexpected, and I knew he'd never let it get corny. He's amazing at creating atmosphere that still feels realistic. We were really on the same page in wanting the film to feel cozy. It's like Jaws at the beginning—what a cozy place. Most of my favorite horror movies start out that way, like you want to be there before things get bad.".
Dippold sent Murai the script in early 2024 (the series was sold later that year). «And that’s what I really love about Hiro: it’s so easy to turn down a pilot when someone says, „Oh, it’s about a haunted island? That sounds terrible!“» Dippold said. «It’s a really risky move. And he met with me anyway, and then I pitched him the season and how it would unfold, and he agreed. And again, he didn’t really know me. I didn’t really know him. I just knew he was brilliant, and I love that he’s not afraid to take risks.».
«Honestly, when I first read it, I felt like, „Are you sure you want this? я "Did he do that?" Murai recalls. "On paper, I saw several different options, and some of them were a little outside my vocabulary. But when I talked to Katie, she focused on creating a sense of realism, where comedy and horror could coexist, rather than using exclusively comedic language, and that changed my perception.".
But this clever combination of funny and scary—and a photo of The Babadook on Halloween—cleared the air.
«"When we started talking, I realized we had a similar theory about how comedy and horror interact with each other, and it's all about building tension and then not revealing whether it's going to be a moment of horror or comedy," he said. "That conceptual idea really intrigued me. It turns out people really "They won't be able to tell whether it's going to be scary or funny at any given moment, simply because of the language of the show.".
When they pitched their project to Apple, the streaming service believed in its viability, which was a «very rare Hollywood experience» and a new one for Dippold. «I was struggling [in show business], and I thought, „You know what? Screw it. I’m going to take a serious creative leap and see what happens. This is something I’ve always wanted to do, and I don’t know how people will react to it,“» Dippold said. «All you can do is create something you’ve always wanted and work hard at it, and then release it, and you have no way of predicting whether people will like it or not. So I embraced it and was ready for it. And while I was very proud of it, I still had no idea how it would be received.».
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Once the writers' room opened, Dippold said it was "an exciting but terrifying time because... in television, you're building the plane while it's still in the air." The support of Murai, someone she could trust and who "has really great taste," made it all possible. And cheerful.
«"We discussed everything conceptually while we were preparing," Murai said. "There's a lot to do in advance on this show, like designing props and a lot of visual jokes that have to work in very specific ways. We spent a lot of time discussing the board games that appear in the second episode." (If you know what I mean, you'll understand.)
Is it easier with a partner? Casting.
«"One of the hardest parts was casting; it was one of the scariest times because nothing worked until you found the right person," Dippold said. "I never had specific actors in mind because I was mostly taking parts of real people and embodying them in my characters.".
In the series, Matthew Rhys plays the town's long-suffering mayor, Tom Loftis, a transplant from Wideaws Bay desperately trying to turn the island into the next Martha's Vineyard, even as it becomes increasingly clear that this New England enclave is anything but hospitable to most people. (It's haunted, by the way!) Joining Rhys in the series are a host of talented character actors, including Stephen Root, Kate O'Flynn, Dale Dickey, Kevin Carroll, Jeff Hiller, Neil Casey, and many others.
«I heard someone call this show «The Avengers of character actors,»» Murai said. “I think that’s very fair. When we first started casting, we were looking for something really specific. If you cast someone who only plays comedic roles, your expectations for the show would be very specific. If you cast someone who only plays dramatic roles, again, it would become more of a horror show. It’s very difficult to find people who can do both, who can play the absurd in real life. When we found Matthew, Stephen, and Kate, it became clear that we needed a cast that fit that spectrum—a diverse cast of people who could immerse themselves in the reality of this very strange place and still understand what’s funny.”.
Casting Tom was the hardest part, Dippold admitted. «Because there are a lot of comedic actors who are really funny and good actors, but I just don’t know if I would watch this show,» she said. «You know what I mean? I want to feel like the show is taking itself seriously. We met with a lot of different people, and [casting director] Allison Jones is amazing; she always has great ideas. I’ve always loved Matthew Rhys. I absolutely love The Americans. I think he’s one of the best actors of all time. And then he showed up on the list, and honestly, as much as I love him, it was hard for me to imagine him in this role.«.
And then they connected to Zoom.
«He was just charming and so naturally funny and he seemed to have it all understood »"," Dippold said. "Usually after a meeting, you either have a good feeling or a bad feeling, and I had the best feeling, and I called Hero, and he had the best feeling, too, and we were like, 'Well, I guess let's do this.' It's one of those things that I'm incredibly lucky for, because I can't imagine this show without him. I think he's perfect for the role, and he just plays it straight. He never tries to be funny. He's so funny, but he's so funny that he knows not to try to be funny.".
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In a supporting cast full of beloved characters, O'Flynn also stands out. When casting director Jones sent Dippold and Murai one of O'Flynn's recordings, it instantly changed their perception of the character. "Honestly, it wasn't at all what I had imagined," Dippold said. "I think an important part of the job is being open to a variety of ideas, but she just was Patricia. I thought, 'Oh, okay. Well, that's Patricia.' It's not what I imagined, but she is Patricia.".
Murai laughed. «We all had the same reaction when we watched the tapes, and there were so many good actors playing different versions of Patricia,” he said. “But when Kate sent us the tape, it was maybe even more stranger Patricia's version. 'Oh, you've lived on a haunted island your whole life.' It was one of those cases where it doesn't necessarily match the description on paper, but it's like lightning in a bottle. It feels like it should be her. Katie, to her immense credit, said, 'I haven't thought about it all these years, but I can't deny that this person is incredibly special, and this choice she made is perfect for the show.'".
This casual dialogue perfectly characterizes Dippold and Murai's working relationship. Dippold may have been dreaming of "Widow's Creek" for nearly two decades, but she's not at all anxious about sharing her vision.
«"Especially at the beginning of filming, we were still trying to find the right tone and the actors' roles, so we just kept trying different options until we found what we needed," Murai said. "We'd try something, then look at each other and say, 'Do you like it? Is this right?' And then we'd make adjustments accordingly.".
It seems Dippold brought the same spirit to the writers' room. When it came to planning the season, she eagerly awaited everyone's ideas on how to bring this wild world to life. Yes, she knew how it would end (no spoilers), but she was open to any path that might lead to it.
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«"I knew what was going to happen in the finale, but not down to the last detail," she said. "I knew the dilemma that was going to arise in the finale, and I wasn't entirely sure how it was going to play out. It was actually a really fun time in the room discussing it, and you'll know what I mean when you see it. But I knew, Where we're moving, I knew the characters' storylines and their paths, but how we get there, what awaits us along the way, was different. It was wonderful, wonderful a group of writers with different perspectives, and everyone brought something important to this season.".
Still, Dippold can easily recall some elements she wanted from the start: that we'd be introduced to a foggy city first, that there would be a "creepy old inn" on the island, and that Loftis would pick up a travel companion at some point.
«I think you need to know exactly from the very beginning what you want to achieve and what emotions "You want to evoke," she said. "Then you can have a conversation, and when someone comes up with the perfect joke, you'll realize, 'Oh, that's exactly what this show needs.' Or someone will have a great idea for a twist, and you'll think, 'Yeah, that's it.' So, I think it's important from the very beginning know , what you want, but then try to get the most out of these wonderful minds.".
И Now all this can be transferred to the screen. When asked about how to distill the series into 10 brilliantly realized episodes, Murai pointed to Dippold's long-term vision as a true guide. It's not about saving the best for a potential next season; it's about enjoying what's possible after all this time.
«"I always feel like you just gravitate toward what you like or what excites you, and so when you start thinking, 'Oh, I should save this for another season,' you're not really being honest with yourself about what exactly is interesting about the show," Murai said. "When I look at this season now, I realize, 'Oh, this is a show made by someone who's been thinking about this for a long time and has very specific interests in this area.' And you can tell that every episode is a masterpiece because she's lived with it for so long.".
When asked about a second season, both were coy—"Fingers crossed," Dippold noted—but acknowledged there was still plenty of room for story development. "I feel like there's so much going on, the whole show is an ensemble, and there are so many characters I'd like to see more of," Murai said. "I think next season will be more intense, more interesting.".
He added with a smile: «I think if we can do that, we’ll have a lot of fun.».
Widow's Bay is now available to watch on Apple TV, with new episodes dropping weekly until the finale on June 17.
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